What is the hardest part of cleansing the HPS-ONLINE way?

[Jos-hua Medicine man]

Greetings HPS Cleansing friends!

Thanks for voting and posting your comments below.

In light of this poll, one thing is pretty clear...

It's pretty obvious that the things that 'scare' people from doing HPS cleansing- fasting & home colonics - turned out to be the easiest part of the program, the easiest part of the processes.

Just goes to show how we all have misconceptions that aren't usually grounded in reality. Our fears tend to drastically limit us and the potential our life beholds for us, and we miss out on great things that come our way, most times just because of unsubstantiated fears.

I'm glad you guys, you HPS cleansers, overcame those unsubstantiated fears, and I'm really grateful that you participated in the above poll, as it shows you just how easy HPS guided cleansing actually was. I thought a poll would be the easist and quickest way for you guys to "reflect" on the cleanse you just recently concluded.

All the new things that we taught you and you practiced in this program- juicing, fasting, colon cleansing using home colonics and helping other in their cleansing- turned out to be quite easy for most of you. Those were the things I'm sure you were quite fearful and frightened of before commencing this guided HPS cleansing program... so your above votes (and comments below) shows me that HPS-online is on track to delivering what it promised.

And all the old things that always have been a drag in everyone's life- reading, cleaning up, popping pills, etc., they turned out to be the hardest part of this program... which from my perspective is great, and from yours not too bad either I guess.

After all your testimonials about what this program actually gave you, is giving you (http://hpscleansing.com/group/forumdisplay.php?f=4) are so exciting and inspiring (to say the least) that I'm sure both you and I aren't too disturbed from the cleaning up the bathroom, or having to read a book or two, or having to participate here at our forums.

FOR THE PERSON TIRED OF FEELING SICK. BEING SICK. LOOKING ENERGETICALLY BLAND DROP YOU FEAR OF GETTING WELL....you can clean up and clean out quickly.

Order here (http://www.hps-online.com/home/order.htm) and start rejuvenating your body and life just as we all have done/ are doing. It's simple the HPS online guided way. Take your first step today. Order now. (http://www.hps-online.com/home/order.htm)

Look--> here is the bottom line...

You, the reader on the sideline, are probably never EVER going to get really healthy and feel extremly well about your health prospects, and celebrate your body, unless someone very professional, very experienced, very caring and very devoted to you gets personally involved in your cleansing and renewal, in your purification and rejuvenation.

NO ONE ever got phenomenally healthy from any diet or exercise routine, any pill, any drug or medication, nor from any cleansing kit, book or manual.

Having the confidence that a certain exercise, or a certain pill or herbal supplement or a certain exercise routine will do good things for your health, or that a certain book will educate you vis a vis what you need to do with your health, is a good thing.... BUT IT IS NOT having the SELF-confidence to actually take control of your health for a lifetime.

We're empowering HPS cleansers... is your cleansing empowering you?

Join us for some online guided cleansing. Come get empowered, it's an all gain no pain proposition that is going to deliver to you solid lasting results.

Peace,

[Stephen_C]

Hi Jos-hua,

I have to say for me the hardest part of doing the cleanse was preparing the water. I have good water being on a well system, but went ahead and filtered it through a brita water system anyway. Doing this twice a day for seven days took a lot of time, although any inconvenience it may have caused was well worth the benefits.

Love, and Light Stephen_C

[Debbie_L]

Hi Jos-hua

The most "difficult" thing for me besides getting the tip in (I have big internal hemms) was the taking of the herbals later in the week. It was hard to get them down. The size, the number - it was a real effort to take them.

For me, it was psychological more than their size or taste. I had been on a program with Dr. Atkins a while back that required me to take about 40-50 capsules, pills, tablets, in supplements to bring my body back to the vitamin and mineral content it was lacking. I did it for 4 months before he cut back the dosage, just to reintroduce other types. It was such an unpleasant experience and the herbals just remind me of them. I did ok at first, like I said, it was just the last 4 days.

Clean up, juicing, fasting, reading everything - that's nothing!

[David_T]

I definately hated the clean up after the colonics -- however that was probably the one thing that I was totally motivated to do!

I think the hardest part is making the mental shift from wanting a quick fix to recognizing that I am embarking on a long journey -- and learning to be satisfied and delighted with small steady progress rather than having everything fixed imeadiately.

When I started on this program, my father became interested (to some degree) in colon health. He decided to go get a series of colonics from a chinese doctor. He was able to go, get washed out and leave -- for about 10 visits. On some level it really rankled me that his colon is probably cleaner than mine now -- that he did it the easy way and is "sorta" done.

But I am watching his resolve towards changing has eating habits crumble -- even while I try hard to support him and encourage him to keep on a path.

It seems like all things in life, you don't really appreciate what you have without really earning it.

I too like to have things easy. I enjoy finding the way for quick results.

But I am more and more convinced that the pace and process we are on is far better than any quick fix. It requires more discipline and thus we get to build our character at the very same time we build our bodies.

Love and light,

David_T

[Jos-hua Medicine man]

Hi David,

Fact is, especially with regards to health- quick fixes don't work- they never have, they never will!

Everything in life of any value is a result of dedication and devotion.... hard work... that is the way it is... we can try to deny it but that is the way it is...

You know, I am a Buddhist dharma practitioner. There they don't want to even talk of progess or results for the first 8 to 10 years.... after 10 years, we can talk about the change and the results... and after 20 years we can look back and truly evaluate.

Business is the same... those business that go up quickly, usually fall quickly too... no foundation to sustain them. Same with good health.

That is part of the problem in health care system in america today, the mirage of you can get a quick fix, that it will work, and that it is sustainable... they get rich quickly, while we degenerate slowly without recognizing it.... and then we have to go back to them again, for a new problem (which arises because of the suppression of the first problem, so it pops up somwhere else in a new form) or to fix the old problems again... and the ride goes on and on.... we descend, they get richer.

Look at the food industry,,, first they fed us with fast foods and junk foods, and processed foods for decades telling us it was ok to eat, not to worry... now 30 years later over 50% of the population is approaching obesity and bad health is on the rise for decades, so now I read in the newspaper this week, the food industry giants are getting into healthier foods... for gods sake, first they make money off us getting us ill, and now they want to make billions again by selling us healthier food products that we are demanding in light of the junk they fed us for decades! They keep getting richer. We keep suffering.

So, in short, we can't really depend on anyone for our health care, we need to depend on ourselves. Your dad thought that he can depend on others... it doesn't work.

I hope everything works out for your father... but watch where you both stand 12 months from now and in 24 months... there will be nothing to compare... but who knows, maybe I am wrong, so, you can update us all as time goes by.

Wishing you both all the best.

peace,

[David_T]

You are so right! I am in total agreement jos-hua. As I said, it was making the shift that required the work -- not the follow through. I look at things for a long time before I commit to them. I watch and observe, question and analyse. By the time I commit to something, I have usually done some of the hardest part.

I am determined and committed -- regardless of results, the rightness of this path is self-evident. I am not one that likes to pull covers over my eyes and wish.

It is obvious where we stand today(my father and I) -- we don't need to wait 12 to 24 months. I have made the commitment. He hasn't. I ate bananas, a salad and some vegies today -- he had fried eggs, bacon, toast, hogie -- and who knows what for dinner. I continue to fast once a week, I have choosen Sunday as my day of rest.

I have been meditating for years, I have been working on my character, my marriage and my business for years. I will continue to work on my character, my marriage, my business and my health until the day I die. And I will continue to find ways to be more valuable to more people as a result of this work.


Love and light,

David_T

[Jos-hua Medicine man]

Greetings David,


I am sorry to read what you wrote here:

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It is obvious where we stand today (my father and I) -- we don't need to wait 12 to 24 months. I have made the commitment. He hasn't. I ate bananas, a salad and some vegies today -- he had fried eggs, bacon, toast, hogie -- and who knows what for dinner.
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I guess it just confirms what HPS is all about- education, not medication.

Your dads series of colonics at a clinic fall into the category of medication, and that is why he is where he is at today, whereas you, and all of us here at HPS are going in a totally different direction.

I guess also that partially explains why all the dieting programs in the world really don't work and aren't sustainable, but nonetheless make the owners very rich... a multi billion dollar industry based on false hopes, false propositions.

The fasting in the HPS 7 Day Wonder program moves the body pH and that helps a lot in changing the taste buds and the chemical desires we have for certain foods... unhealthy foods... an alkaline body wants more alkaline foods... the alkaline foods are its oxygen... an acidic body, ph and blood stream wants acidic foods.... and so your dad, even though he has done colonics is still walking around with a highly acidic pH and bloodstream, so bacon and eggs and hoggies still taste great and feel great and don't 'seemingly' create too much havoc for him when he eats them... and that's a shame... he is squarely setting himself up for a host of problems in the future.... putting that kind of food in a clean colon is a receipe for disaster. His colon must be secreting huge amounts of mucus to protect itself, and that mucus will back up and create a heap of potential problems... plus whatever toxins that aren't entombed in the mucus are seeping back into his bloodstream, thereby creating a heavy load for his liver to filter them out and purify the blood. It's like lego, one thing is connected to the other thing... interconnectiveness. Interdependence.

I got this in the mail today... it just exemplifies the QUICK FIX approach so prevalent in the USA today. In my eyes it is complete nonsense, but I guess millions of other people just don't think like I do. In fact, it is so much nonsense that they are ready to give it away FREE for 30 days usage...

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Now, I can say with total certainty, anyone doing the above is not going to get anything close to what we are getting by going along the HPS cleansing path towards better health... and of course, sustainability (long term good vibrant health and healing) isn't even to be considered....

They forget to ask what happens in 7 years from now.

Every cell in the body changes within 7 years... so someone on the HPS cleansing path, after 7 years is really new.... every new cell since they started cleansing is a purer, cleaner, healthier cell... and since within a 7 year period all cells have replaced themselves you can add up all the trillions of cells in the human body, and well, you can figure out what it all means... personally, I can attest to it... a new body, new mind. Already way before the 7 years is up, we see tremendous results, don't we?... already after 7 days of cleansing only.

Wishing you and your dad all the best David!

Give him Daniels book to read... maybe that can help him along the path. You can share a lot with him and help him better adjust his habits and lifestyle... when one has a clear understanding, it is easier to make adjustments. Help him Slay the dragon of ignorance.

Peace.

HPS- better then the best diets!

[Niamh_H]

I found the hardest part of the level 1 cleanse was the monotony/boredom and lack of variety! Whatever that says about me!! This time round I've loking forward to the time off.

[David_B]

Don't get me wrong, I was enthralled by seeing what came out of my body and still hold onto those images when I start to think about eating dairy in particular. But I just got tired of the colonics. This was primarily due to some soreness just inside the anus. I think it may have been from misplacement of the tip or perhaps during one bucket I had the water too warm. Or, perhaps I have hem's. And finally, I noticed the most discomfort after releasing water and my muscles naturally contracted, gripping the tip where the side water holes were. I could feel this and think that may have aggravated things a bit. Once I became aware of this, I concentrated on relaxing (if that is possible to do) and preventing the muscles from performing there natural action. This seemed to help things.

Don't ge me wrong. None of the above were so severe that I even for a moment did not think about doing each and every bucket. No pain, no gain.

Cheers!
David.

[Sumina_B]

For me the worst part of the formal were the quantity of pills, especially near the end of the 7 days, when there are more pills to take. Also the clean up of the juicing. Man, I sure do get sick of cleaning those juicer parts!

Much Love,
Sumina

[Tisha_P]

I got tired of cleaning the juicer after my shakes. I don't know why.

I didn't mind cleaning up after the colonics. That was easy to me.

I also got tired of taking the pills towards the end of my cleanse.

I did do better on my level 2 than on level 1, though. I was not used to taking pills (at least that many a day) and it was hard for me. By level 2 I had mastered that and it was much easier, but still by the 6th day on level 2, I was having a hard time with my herbs.

Love,
Tisha

[Louise_L]

After I got past the anxiety of doing the first colonic, the hardest part was doing the whole schedule.

I tried to minimize other work by doing household chores ahead of time. So between that and the preparations and all the work of the cleanse itself, I was tired when I started and exhausted when I finished. Schlepping the water, measuring it out and taking some to and from the kitchen to boil, etc. was the most tiring part of all.

I also didn't have a good working alarm clock, so I never even had a nap the whole seven days. I was amazed at how quickly the 1.5 hour increments passed, and I felt harried the whole time. I kept thinking how nice it would be to be in a spa.

When I do the next cleanse, I'll boil water in the bathroom, make sure I have all 7 days off work, and consider disconnecting the phone and doorbell. And I hope I'll have the preparations finished sooner.

Louise

[Ed_W]

Hi Jos-hua,
There was nothing overwhelmingly hard about the 7DW cleanse. Just trying to keep working and fitting in other activities during the cleanse was the hardest thing for me.
Ed

[Donna_A]

Aloha to all,

Because I am preparing for my first cleanse, I voted that the hardest thing for me to do is reading all the material because none of the other categories applied. I wouldn't say its hard, but just that you have to make the effort to plan time to read.

I've read through to Message 4/12 of the NW Series and the handbook. I am now waiting for The Tao of Health, Sex and Longevity to arrive and read that.

I must say what I've read so far is fascinating and informative.

[Kay_M]

The biggest challenge for me has been getting used to how to use the different forums as the programs were switched. I had limited access to the computer some days, couldn't get connected, and often felt frustrated as I tried to comply with the postings. (I joined just as the new program was to get going. I am still challenged by this new one, too). I appreciate your bearing with my mistakes. I think the actual fast process that was distasteful was trying to take all the pills, as is mentioned by others, and hauling the water from the store, upstairs, heating and all that business. However, I think the procedures, the colonics, the juicings, etc. spoke to dedication needed to make the changes I want to make and since there was so much involved, it helped cement my resolve to continue. The program gives me optiomism for better health as I continue with the group.
Thanks , Kay

[Sue_R]

Jos-hua,

What a great question! And a great way to review the changes in my life over the last several months, since my Level 1!

The 7DW Level 1 cleanse itself was actually the easiest part of this journey...yes, it took a while to get clear about what I was supposed to be doing each day, and it took some effort to do all the juicing, cleaning up, colonics, herbals. I also had some symptoms of detox - slight headache, chills, etc. I was expecting all of that, so it wasn't a big deal. However, for me, the most challenging part came AFTER the formal cleanse itself, as I started learning how to make day-to-day changes in my real life.

Like David T wrote in an earlier post, this is not a quick fix! It's about learning a new way of life, and a new way of being healthy.

I began learning how to eat differently, how to exercise differently, how to be mindful of everything my body was experiencing. THAT has been the most challenging (and the most rewarding!) part.

The cleanse itself was, in the end, fairly simple!

Warmly,
Sue_R

[Marilyn_W]

Jos-hua:
At first I was overwhelmed by the amount of reading material, the schedule, the number of herbs to be taken, making the shakes and adherring to the schedule. Iwas a nervous wreck. But with the supprt of everyone I settled down and "went with he flow". After the second day it became sooo easy to do.

The most difficult part I found to do was the daily postings. Sometimes I would be so tired and weak I could hardly type my post. I would try and write what was happening and what I was experiencing during the day but even found that difficult.

The level 2 went better and I thinkwhen I do my level 3 I will use my cassette recorder to record my thoughts and how I am doing for that day. It will be much easier for me to just play back instead of me trying to remember everything.

L&L Marilyn_W

[Pat_W]

Hello Jos-hua and all,

Interesting that my first post to the new forums gets to the heart of the matter for me. I thought I'd do the polls first as they would be "easy" but I'm caught having to honest and reveal some of my character flaws.

From my very beginnings on this planet, I've been known as a rather stubborn and independent person. Having to learn everything the hard way and then sometimes not even learning the first time.

So the hardest thing for me has to do with issues self discipline. Perhaps that why the Lord had to really let me get to the end of myself in the realm of health before I found this program and the way to regain a level of health that could make me a person that He could use in the lives of others. Anyway, at the beginning of my time here at hps, the biggest hurdle for me was to get familiar enough with my computer to set up my to recieve the materials on-line and then to make it all work. I spent several days at the computer stubbornly going at it and learning a great deal about computers and myself...my computer and my determination to do this thing. It was not like me to stick with a problem for so long and when I finally got everything up and running I had a great sense of accomplishment. But Ed was getting jealous of all the time I was spending with hps. He got over it later when he saw the results in the improvement in my health.

The next difficulty for me was all the reading. I hadn't been doing much reading of late and felt like my brain was just not able to recieve and retain much any longer. At first I did the reading just because I needed to justify buying the books, then I became fascinated with the material and my tired brain began to re-awaken. The material was new and different from things I'd read before and I found that even though I was fascinated I needed to reread in order to retain the information. I wish I had one of those wonderful memories like some of you younger folks have. Mine is much better than it was but is still rather sieve- like.

Because I know that I have a tendency to procrastinate I have to work to keep myself on track with reading and all. That's why I worry about the time between cleanses where the structure is looser and I'm suppose to be taking care of building myself up. I can so easily loose sight of my goals and fall off, let down my guard and be back to my old self-destructive patterns...and then begin experiencing the poor health that follows. Oh hum, the price of poor discipline is great. I should learn...I am learning...slowly...and I do return.

This is turning into a testimony so I'll stop here and save some of this for another forum. Its good to be back.

Love to all,
Pat

[Pat_W]

Sorry folks.

As you can see I still have a lot to learn. I guess a new thread means it will be sepatate from the line of discussion you were reading. This post was suppose to be under the poll about difficulty with starting to cleanse.
Jos-hua, you have my permission to delete all this unless there is a simple way to move it to where it belongs.

Pat

[Claudette_P]

Hi dear Pat:

Thank you for sharing your story! You are a wonderful *human becoming*!

I struggle with many of the same issues--sometimes/often, a slow learner and fast forgetter. Its good to see you just keep forging ahead no matter what.

I bet you will have a lot of wisdom to share too! Can't wait.
Master-faster seems very far down the road....

Blessing to you!

Claudette :cool:

[David_T]

Dearest Pat,

Why are you struggling so much? For what purpose are you striving and pushing and hurdling and sticking?

What is it you wish to become?

Please stop for a moment and consider this:

When will you be enough?

When will you treat yourself with as much love, compassion, patience and respect as you aspire to treating others.

Relax. Notice that it is hard to do things we don't really want to do. Have the acceptance to see that you are perfect now. Allign yourself with your inner knowing and you will see you can go where you want without doing violence to yourself.

You are love at your core. No need to fix that. Find yourself at the core first, and work outwards carying your love with you. You can't get to your core of love hacking away at your illusions from the outside.

Love and light,

David_T

[Tisha_P]

Kay,

I think you are right. It does take dedication to make the changes necessary to do this program. There are several things to get used to, one being this new computer set up.

I am a bit computer illiterate, too, and I don't like change all that much. This new system was kind of thrust upon us, so I guess we will have to adjust. I am doing my best to conform. :) I'm sure you are, too.

Love,
Tisha

[Stephen_C]

Hi Pat,

Thank you for your heart felt honesty. I can definitely identify with a lot of what you said. I too am new to the computer world and found it hard to keep up with a lot of the messages as they were coming in, but the persistence paid off.

I think a lot of us find it difficult to change old habits in such a short time, unless some of them become life threatening and only then will we take the necessary action to help ourselves.

I know after my first cleanse I've kind of relaxed back into my old eating habits, but by knowing that HPS and the support group is here I feel like I'm back on track again. It's wonderful that we can come here and share our thoughts and encouragement for each other as you have. It's good to hear from you.

Love and Light

Stephen_C

[Masashi_Y]

Hi Jos-hua,

The hardest part for me was to remember the information contained in the large material. I am still now digesting them. Other than that, there is nothing very hard for me.

Thanks,
Masashi

[Erik_M]

Hi Jos-hua,

The hardest thing for me is trying to keep on schedule with the pills and shakes...sometimes my stomach felt full I would forget the time. Also,my daughter has her own schedule so for now thats usually mine too. The many many commercials of food on the T.V. don't help either but I don't suppose you can do anything about that..HAHA! Anyway, I'm only half done but that's the hardest part for me.

Your friend,

Erik_M

[Wayne_H]

Thanks to my kind wife who is doing the cleanses at the same time and doing the food prep and cleanup (her choice) many of the items on the list do not involve me.

The hardest thing for me is conquering the old habit of eating improperly between meals. There are two main times of tempation and giving in. One is a school (schoolteacher) If another teacher brings in a dozen doughuts or a cake, or a student offers me some candy--if it's there and it's free!!--need I say more.

The other is after school, Saturdays, and vacations. I moonlight doing drywall. For years I have stopped at a store on the way (I know where they all are!!) and bought a "goodie." Getting by that store is hard.

I have found myself justifing eating the junk by telling myself that I have a cleanse coming up soon and will get rid of the results of improper eating then. I need to remember that the more junk that is in the system, the longer it takes to get rid of that before I am making any real progress on the next level.

Wayne_H

[David_M]

Taking the herbals is my big problem. I've had a life-long phobia(?) about swallowing pills and capsules ... just can't make myself do it. So I grind pills to powder and empty the contents of capsules into a container, add liquid and chug-a-lug.

The herbals are very effective in doing their job during each cleanse, but the taste is quite strong. After a number of days, usually 5, it's just too much to handle, and I get to the point where I cannot continue swallowing it any longer.

Next time I'm going to try using a straw to get the mixture to the back of my mouth, away from the taste buds. I know that ice cold liquids are not good for digestion in the stomach, but perhaps using ice water would also minimize the stimulation of the taste buds?

I can handle all other aspects of cleansing just fine. And the results have always been more than worth the effort involved.

[Jeffery_B]

Hi Joshua,

I clicked on the reading material as the hardest part of the cleanse (I'm a slow reader and still haven't finished all the material--Still reading and its now six weeks after the end of my first cleanse!).

I would say the second hardest part for me was the computer and posting requirements. For some reason this software or my system just seemed to disagree.

I kept getting booted off, disconnected, password failure and lost a lot of heart-felt postings that I tried to retype (which was hard to do...especially after losing a message that took 20 minutes to compose--frankly, the mood was lost!).

However, I managed to work through it all (with your help). Thanks for the question! :)

Jeff_B

[Amanda_S]

Hello Jos-hua-

Great question. Looking back to last week I'd have to say fitting in the colonics was most difficult. This is due entirely to my work/school schedule, knowing full well you don't recommend working during this program, I don't have any complaints. I felt that the program has a superior design, taking into account preparing your body prior to the cleanse, cleansing reactions during, and maintenance after the cleanse.

Overall, a simple program with incredible results.

My thanks-
Amanda S.

[David_M]

I'll second that.

[David_T]

Jeffery_B,

Some time ago I started composing my responses in wordpad -- this is a simple word processing program that comes with your copy of windows. By using wordpad, I can type and edit and such then post the final version to the message board...then if the board happens to crash, I still have the message in my wordpad.

If you are interested in how to do this and need additional help, send me a message and I will be happy to detail how to do it. Its easy.

Love and light,

David

[Elisa_C]

As I was unable to take the time completely off during my cleanse, time became an issue.

Time to fill the bucket , time on the board, keeping the schedule to fit in the shakes and herbs 5 times a day. Hopefully in September when I will do Level 2 I will be able to make the private time for just me.

The rest of the cleanse was perfect and useful because the practice and repetion each day helped make the cleanse more purposeful. The very act of juicing, preping the buckets etc reenforced the intent for me.

RE: Juicer cleaning blues, I bought a Samson juicer and it is a breeze to clean compared to the Champion I used to have. You need to cut the fruit in smaller pieces, but it is worth it. I find if I clean up immediately the parts only need a quick rinse except for the metal screen which needs about 20 seconds of scrubbing with the brush provided.

It is a shame my colon doesn't clean out that easy ! hehehehe

Love & Light

Elisa C

[Maz_S]

Hi all--The taking of the Herb/Alf were the toughest for me. I do not take any medication or tablets, suppletments, etc at all and taking these pills became harder each day. But the results were more than enough reward and motivation to keep going.

I too am a bit of a quick leaner and quick forgetter. I have to re-read the material from time to time. I have all the notes in a three ring binder for each of the three levels so far and can refer back to them. I tend to forget things in the books so highlight that which I need to rememger.

Reading the materials and books at first was hard, but I have really started to read more in lost of areas I am studying and now find health books fascinating.

I actually love the dicipline of being on a 7 day cleanse. I have always done better the more structure in my life. So that part is good. But when off the cleanse I too struggle at times to stay on the wagon :) :)

All in all, it is still the best!!

God bless,
Maz

[Lardin_B]

for me the hardest part is the juicing. I have one of those green life juicers. As wonderful as they are they are huge pain to clean.

Lardin

[Richard_D]

The hardest part for me was peparing the water for the colonics. I have to use filtered water, too, and my filter only runs cold water, and it's very slow on top of that. So I'd fill my 5-gallon container first, then top it off with a pot of boiling water/coffee mix, and try to shake the whole thing up b/c the hot water always wants to stay on top. You ever try shaking a 5-gallon jug of water? Not easy. And anyway it never worked, even if I rolled it upside-down and back up again several times, the water would never mix so basically I ended up with alternately hot and cold water. I hope there wasn't any particular harm in that--the cold water wasn't uncomfortable to me in any way at least.

For the next fast, I'll have to do the colonics in a bathroom on the 3rd floor, which means 2ce a day I'll have to lug 5 gallons of water up 2 flights of stairs. I guess it'll be good exercise.

Rick

[Tsang_Y]

Nothing was too "hard" during the cleanse. With a bit of planning all went quite well.

We chucked the old hard-to-clean juicer and bought a new one which is a breeze to clean. It has a large chute through which we can put a whole apple - so no more chopping up either. That's the best investment we've made. (email me if you want to know what's the juicer we use).

We got a water filter and had warm water running off the tap for the cleanse, so no trouble in heating up water either.

I'm Chinese so I'm very used to taste of funny herbals. In fact, I love the taste of herbals. The ben has a funny consistency which can be quite off-putting. Still it's not a problem to put up with.

I'm rather adept with computers and am a pretty fast reader, so the posting and reading were not problems.

So my conclusion is nothing is too hard, once we know what needs to be done, share others' experiences and prepare for it.

However, the part I disliked most was cleaning up after the colonics. It is a monumental pain, especially after just having 5 gallons of water up your bum which is rather exhausting in a way. I still loath the colander cleaning. I am very tempted to do away with the colander in future cleanses, unless someone can suggest a compelling reason not to do so, other than keeping tab of what comes out of our body (it's kind of predictable anyway!)

All in all, I agree that all the hard work and money we need to put in for the cleanse lead to one good thing - a stronger commitment and resolve to eat well and be mindful of our health for the long run.

Tsang_Y

[Rachel_M]

I was bored, but for most of the cleanse, I was too impatient & irritated to relax and enjoy peacefulness. I realized that it was the apples - based on past experience and self-awareness. Once I switched to lemons, I was much more calm and the cleanse was pleasant.

I took the time off of work (for the most part). That was good, but I realized how two dimentional my life is. In general, I work as a chef, come home and cook, cook on the weekends, go out to eat, and rock climb. I read a lot of food history books, cookbooks, and info on yeast. That's it. Oh, and I look at a lot of houses to buy right now. And THAT's it.

So, all of the cooking & eating & climbing & work was taken out of the picture. Then for most of the cleanse I was too irritated to read. So, I was just bored. I'm glad that I was aware of those apples.

Thank goodness this was apparent to me. I am planning to become a more fulfilled human being with more breadth of experience.

[Judy_I]

I voted reading all the materials because there is a lot to read and the pressure to doing the level right. Also making sure that I'm on top of everything is a tough task to. I always have that feeling that I'm missing something during the whole process, did I overlook a step and thoughts of that nature.

[Julee_T]

The most difficult thing for me was also cleaning the colander. I am with Tsang, I would rather get rid of it, only I don't find what comes out or the amount to be predictable. As I am doing the colonics and things are moving, I believe I would be greatly disappointed not to see what was removed.

The journey and the process take some getting used to as well. I am a procrastinator and a instant results junkie. This program is perfect for someone like me. The requirement to do all processes on time and to report to the forum kept me honest and on the move and the immediate results kept me hooked.

[Kristin_K]

Hi Jos-hua,

The hardest part for me was having to do something every 1 1/2 hours, during the day of course. I would have slept for most of the formal if I had a choice.

But, I understand that in order for the cleanse to work that is just part of the program. Not a big deal! I love the program and would never cleanse any other way!!

[Marty_K]

The hardest part in my opinion is trying to get good rest amid the usual hustle and bustle of daily life. When you try to squeeze in the colonics, steams, and massages you better have some support and understanding from those closest to you. I felt like I was in perpetual motion, but luckily found some time to just doze off. I did enjoy those moments when I would just lay there with my body not having to work as hard.

Marty

[Caroline_H]

Hi jos-hua--

i am finally catching up to this stage of the game....i have surely missed all the love and friendship and have been in "Big" need to talk to u all....

the hardest thing for me was to drink any kind of pill and especially that amount of pills........i did the best i cld but only felt defeated in the end for not taking the right amount...having to do it so often and not being able to do it well just made it hard to get it all in....

cheers,
caroline

[Greg_S]

The hardest part for me was definitely all the cleanup involved. Cleaning the juicer and after each colonic. Craving "real" food was soetimes a problem also. Had no problem taking the herbs and other stuff.

[Chris_F]

To me the whole progam was tough, but not that tough. The biggest problem I had was posting to the support group. I was so occupied just donig all the steps that sitting down and trying to type (never learned how) was really hard for me. No this stuff isn't hard at all. Looking back I kind of enjoyed it actually, didnt mind all the work. I sure wouldn't want to do it if I had anything else I had to do at the same time, like job or family stuff etc.

Chris

[Jessie_C]

I notice that someone had mentioned "losing posts that you've worked a long time on" as a difficulty. Well that just happened to me! I had about 2 paragraphs in here about my difficulties with cleaning the juicer and dealing with water, but now "posting" is moving up on my list. =)

But seriously, cleaning up the juicer 5 times a day was really draining on me. I felt like that was all I did for a week. I am very happy with the juicer I own, but I got tired of always being at the sink and the pile of drying parts on my counter all the time.

The second hardest thing for me was dealing with water. I have a freezer door water dispenser, so it took about 15 minutes of standing there with a 1 gallon pitcher to fill up each bucket. That's not a lot of time in the scheme of things, but it seemed like an eternity sometimes during the formal.

Overall, though, I've been very happy with the whole experience, and it's getting better each day of the post-cleanse.

[Anna_P]

I am a slow and questioning reader, so found the volumes of information available a bit overwhelming. At every paragraph I'd have questions questions questions. Jos-hua told me to take it easy with the questions and to try not to make things more complicated than they needed to be. This seemed to fly in the face of who I AM and was very difficult for me to hear.

Cleaning up after colonics was another obstacle. The collander especially. I was (and am) not convinced that after examining the first few collanders I derived any benefit from that exercise. I am CONVINCED that it's a good thing getting all this crap out of me, but I'm not convinced I need to examine it in detail every time.

But actually, the most disconcerting aspect of the entire process for me so far, at every stage, has been that I don't seem to fit the pattern in terms of the timetable of when I'd feel really lousy with toxins, when I'd feel increased symptoms of all my "conditions." For some reason I found (and find) this phenomenon extremely disconcerting and doubt-producing. I've tried so many things over the years - when what I was reading about on a particular day didn't jibe with what I was experiencing, it made me wonder if I was indeed in the right place for me.

I'd also like to mention here that there have been several Netwonder mailings I haven't received and I've had to have sent to me by another member.

The forums, which I dreaded the most, have been my lifeline through all these doubts. They turned out to be the best thing about the program for me.

[Andy_R]

I was comfortable with my level 1 7DW. The tediouos part for me was setting up & breaking down for the colema twicew w day, I enjoy it but it gets tedious. I would get a bit off the time table with my suppliments and that wouyld throw the whole day off as well. The good news is that the results all worked and were well worth the the work and effort. Thanks, Andy_R

[Laura_G]

Hi-
The prep and clean up became monontonous after about 5 or 6 days and I was ready for that to end. During the prep, it was one time I actually missed being in an apartment because of the up and down the steps for boiling water and other necessary kitchen preps for colonics. (And I love living in this house.)

My hands got very dry too, so cleaning up after juicing became brutal as I didn't have any gloves. (Got some after the cleanse though;)

The schedule, especially when I needed to go out for appts., felt pressing.

But on the other hand, the schedule helped time go fast. This was good since I was looking forward to eating again.

The colonics were actually relaxing to me and one of the times I felt during the day I could stop and chill.

Very happy to have done this.

Peace,
Laura G

[Nancy_H]

I have to confess I found the colonics the easist bit, in fact I would even go so far as to say I enjoyed them, I found it quite comfortable and often felt drowsy enough to doze during, any detox symptoms melted away after a colonic. I didnt like the prep of the colonics but only because had a stupid fridge water filter I had to fill a billion times before hand.
The hardest thing for me has been post cleanse, knowing what I am meant to be doing and eating, then with all the travel, restaurants and lack of choice inevitably slipping up and then the guilt. I felt so good post formal but now feel evrey day am just polluting myself.
Nancy

[Stacey_H]

I thought the hardest parts of doing the cleanse were:

-hauling 70 gallons of water up two flights of stairs
-knowing how far i had put the tip in and whether it
was about to come out after i evacuated, etc..
-being in school at the same time and feeling tired, but guilty if i didn't work as hard
-thinking too much about pizza in the first few days!

all in all, it wasn't hard-
nowhere near as difficult as I had imagined.

Stacey_H

[Judy_I]

Is it just me or do most people think about pizza during a cleanse?!? Why is that I wonder????

[Laura_G]

Judy-
Pizza is one of my favorite foods, so I think about it all the time.

I would like to add something I have discovered.

The hardest part of cleansing (for me) has been staying on a healthy eating and general lifestyle following cleansing. In all actuality, in retrospect which has a tendency to be 20/20, the actual cleansing is cake. (no pun intended there-sorry.:rolleyes: )

Yes, there is physical work and some planning for appointments that are involved and can be hectic. But the whole program is drawn out and we're even given a list of books to help us through and get us inspired.

This is a real learning experience and at first glance looking and reading over all the info, seems to be overwhelming. But guess what. It's simple and even easy compared to once back into the swing of the other parts of living. Emotions get in the way. And I do think that most of us deal with emotional eating habits. The ease of junk food is also a factor when we're in a hurry. And then being with friends and family during holidays, birthdays or just whenever. It's so easy to get back into bad habits again.

So if I could I'd change my vote, because it's the follow up that has been the most difficult. And yes that is a part of cleansing too. Probably the biggest part and where the work really comes in since the cleansing is 7-10 days and the follow up is the rest of our life. :cool:

Love and Light,
Laura

[Donna_T]

Dear Readers

I have to agree with Debbie L at the top of this thread, the hardest part for me was swallowing all those capsules. Just the smell of them started to turn my stomach towards the end. The other hard thing was preparing meals for my family and not being able to eat. I was ok for the first 4 days but then it got tough. I wasn't actually hungry, it was more the smell of that beautiful, forbidden foooood....

But it's only for seven days out of your life and I kept telling myself I have another 40 years of eating ahead of me, so RELAX. Anyways I got through it and feel fantastic now. So well worth the discipline. My skin looks amazing now and I can't wait to do another one! You forget pretty quickly any discomfort or cravings...

Anyone worried they couldn't do it, YOU CAN! Once you start, its pretty easy really. Get someone else to do the cooking if you can!

Donna x

[John_F]

The hardest part of the cleanse for me was more mental than anything else. I had delayed it for so long thinking of worst case scenarios, letting my imagination run rampant with fears and anxieties that when I finally started the cleanse many of those old memories resurfaced on me and I had to do my best to remain unemotional.

The first half of the cleanse was the hardest but things began to become almost routine.

Aside from that clean up was a hastle but got easier when I became more organized.

Learning and practice, that's what this first cleanse was for me. Seeing the stuff coming out made everyday's hastles well worth putting up with though.

[Aaron_S]

The hardest part of this L1 was getting used to the daily routine of doing something every 1.5 hours. It seemed like every time I would finish the dishes, it was time to dirty them up again...now I know how my colon feels!

That and the giant rash that I'm attributing to my becoming more alkaline during the pre cleanse. That lasted the entire formal, and to make matters worse, the dry air in the high elevations really exacerbated the problem.

Other than that, I actually looked forward to going into the board room for a meeting twice a day...that was the time I just used to relax and focus on my breathing.

-Aaron

[David_K]

The hardest part of the 7 days, and even the week prior to that was all of the reading involved. Strapped for time as I already was, I found that I had to dig through everything several times to go back and retrieve little bits and pieces of information as needed here and there. I realize I would have had more time if I could have taken time off of work, but a lot of the emails came the night before. I constantly felt rushed because I was receiving the instructions last minute. I'm just the kind of person who like to read ahead and be prepared. I feel that if I rush to get the knowledge, I may miss a step.

It would be nice if there were two Netwonders. One that talked about things like health care, etc, and one that was purely step-by-step instructions. There were a couple of emails that had exactly the information I needed to know in order to proceed with the cleanse, and I had to keep going back to reference them the whole time. I know that there is no blanket approach because everyone is different, but there are a set of basic instructions that apply to everyone. It would be nice if all of those were in a single place together. Maybe a "cheat-sheet" of some kind. Also, it would be good to have an exact count of the different supplements needed that matched what the vendor was offering. I ran out of a couple of items about 3 days before the end of my fast as had to ration the rest of them. No biggie I guess because I came through with great results so far, and this is just the beginning! :D

[Dorothea_L]

Greetings,

I found the physical labour involved in the 7 day formal to be the most difficult for me. But I was already low on energy before I started, so that's no surprise. Carrying the water upstairs and cleaning up the bathroom afterwards - was a lot of back work for me - including doing extra laundry.

However, that being said, I would gladly go through it all again, just to receive the benefits: ie. losing the crap and getting the terrific boost of energy I got after it was over!

Dorothea

[Bharat_P]

Hi,

I can honestly say that I did not find anything that hard to deal with, probably because I was fortunate to have plenty of time to read, prepare, arrange and organise everything. Sure the daily routine seemed to take up all the hours - boards, juicing, supps, cleaning, steams, massages, and shopping.

It was a drag to buy large quantities of water. In the uk, I was only able to get 5 litre bottles, so was buying enough to last me 2 -3 days at a time. At the same time I would pick up fruit every 2 - 3 days as well.

I think it helped that I was mentally prepared for the tasks, and I viewed it all as part of the rejuvenation process. Already looking forward to the next cleanse, armed with better info/knowledge/experience to sail through - hopefully. :) :)

[Allison_C]

Hello cleansing friends (and prospective cleansing friends...),

For me, there was no single item that was difficult. Rather, it was everything taken together that filled the entire day, leaving not much time for not much else.

The fasting, colonics, juicing, cleaning were all easy (although as others have experienced, cleaning the board and other equipment is a bit of a drag when you just want to rest.).

Posting daily to my thread and others' threads was time consuming but not hard. Luckily I was on spring break so I could devote basically all my time to the formal cleanse.

***And although it was time consuming, the daily posting and interaction was absolutely, without a doubt a hugely important piece in my process ***

Keeping up with the daily reading material was OK, but what I was behind on (and still am) was Reid's book.

Happy cleansing!
Allison