Stacy_M, Age 37, 7DW Level 1 cleansing, Introduction, Law Library Technician

[Stacy_M]

Hey everyone
I have a tendency to run long-winded on this sort of thing, so I’m struggling to keep it relatively brief!

I am not in terrible health. No major illnesses or surgical mutilations. I have long struggled with depression, and was diagnosed with so-called ADD several years ago. I took various medical drugs over the course of about 8 years. Over the past year or two, I have become somewhat acquainted with certain truths about the medical establishment. Let’s just say I’m not impressed. I removed the substances from my life about 10 months ago.

Going off of drugs has been a real struggle, and I have been sorely tempted at times to go back on. (My supreme disgust with mainstream medicine has so far triumphed, however.) The depressive symptoms that I had been covering up returned with a vengeance, and I developed a whole host of other little ills, the worst of which is a hellish anxiety condition which is probably threatening my health at this point. Many people of my acquaintance imagine that the discomfort I have experienced is proof that the drugs were working, and they simply cannot understand why I resist them so strongly.

Drug withdrawal prompted a stepped-up search for alternatives. I have tried a few different things, some of which have been somewhat helpful. Now I am here. I have been interested in the idea of colon cleansing for some time, and when I stumbled across the HPS website I got so excited about the apparent quality of the program that I signed up immediately. I had a lot of second thoughts after that, and I almost backed out, fearful that I had just made yet another “impulse buy”. But then I looked at the website and testimonials again, and I had a gut feeling that the decision to join had been the right one. It makes so much sense. I decided that I owe it to myself to find out, because if an encrusted bowel is at the root of many or all of my issues, any other attempt to correct those issues would surely be superficial and generally ineffective.

The way the community is set up actually seems rather ingenious to me, and I think I am going to have occasion to feel very grateful to have found it and been accepted into it. I know myself well enough to know that I could not do this sort of thing without guidance – I’m too easily overwhelmed.

I work for a law firm that specializes in medical malpractice (they defend doctors). As you might imagine, the claims just keep coming. I come into contact with a lot of horror stories regarding doctor visits and hospital stays. I am perpetually amazed at the extent to which my coworkers take it all in stride, as if it’s just to be expected. They think I’m so “fringe” because I have such a different perspective on health and on the real nature and motivations of the medical establishment. All I can say is, I’d like to avoid ever having to tell the kind of story that some of these plaintiffs have told.

I am a firm believer in personal responsibility, and I love, love the idea of health independence. I like Zen, but have fallen out of practice in recent years – so the lovingkindness aspect of this program appeals to me too. It may be a while before I’ll be able to start the cleanse proper, but I am feeling more optimistic and excited than I have about anything in many years. I think that is a good sign!

I wish you all peace :cool:
Love Stacy

[Janaka_P]

Yes, that is a good sign, Stacy.
Welcome to our little community and a stepladder to increased health.
Your philosophy fits in well here and you will be much rewarded with the results! :)

[Tracy_M]

Aloha Stacy!

You are to embark on wonderful journey. I loved my L1...you will too.

What you said quote:

Many people of my acquaintance imagine that the discomfort I have experienced is proof that the drugs were working, and they simply cannot understand why I resist them so strongly.


I have encountered this a myriad of times. Don't believe them! I believe that our own bodies know best. Trust your body and trust your instincts.

Malama pono,
Tracy

[Stephen_C]

Welcome Stacy,

You've stumbled to the right place to reclaim your health.. It's always exciting to me to hear the aspects of everyone's health concerns when starting out here at HPS.

Don't wait to long to get started. Go ahead and get your books and supplies and once this is done you will be ready to move ahead. I guarantee this will be one of the most exciting journeys you've yet to embark upon...

Good luck getting started and I look forward to following along with you...

Stephen_C

[James_B]

Welcome Stacy

Great first step. Cleansing will give your body a chance to help itself. This experience will also help you learn a lot about yourself.

[Jos-hua Medicine man]

The way the community is set up actually seems rather ingenious to me, and I think I am going to have occasion to feel very grateful to have found it and been accepted into it. I know myself well enough to know that I could not do this sort of thing without guidance – I’m too easily overwhelmed.

I work for a law firm that specializes in medical malpractice (they defend doctors). As you might imagine, the claims just keep coming.

I come into contact with a lot of horror stories regarding doctor visits and hospital stays. I am perpetually amazed at the extent to which my coworkers take it all in stride, as if it’s just to be expected. They think I’m so “fringe” because I have such a different perspective on health and on the real nature and motivations of the medical establishment. All I can say is, I’d like to avoid ever having to tell the kind of story that some of these plaintiffs have told.

I wish you all peace :cool:
Love Stacy


Welcome to our community Stacy. I am very happy that you are here learning how to take personal responsibility for your own health and well being.

Those claims that you talk about really boil down to those people not wanting to take personal responsibility for their own health and well being. They chose the dependency route, and well, you know, you see first-hand where all that can lead.

I just saw on CNN yesterday a clip that a doctor is being sued because he told his patient that she is obese and that it is affecting her well-being on all dimensions, sexually too... She took it personally and sued him.

The Wisconsin medical board reviewed the case and suggested that the doctor go to some educational course, which he (rightfully) refused. I don't blame him. I too would refuse. His job should be to tell the truth, to get to the source of the problems and to teach, educate and then show people how to heal themselves, how and why to take personal responsibility for their health and how to avoid bad health in the future. Seemed to me he was one of the few doctors who have finally got it. But the system immediately arose on him.... funny. Kind of confirms what you wrote above re motivation. The medical establishment is not purely motivated. It is money motivated.

I think you REALLY are going to learn all that here, and you REALLY are going to bring your health and well-being to levels you never imagined before, and I look forward to walking that path with you.

No one leans on anyone else here at HPS... we all walk the same path together as brothers and sisters...each at his own pace and capacity, and I hope for you, like for most of us here, it will be a very rewarding, enjoyable, fun journey.

Wishing you all the best,
Here with you, for you.

Putting up today a nice daily inspiration for you. :D ;)

Peace,

[Linda P]

Hi Stacy,

I guess we start a path at about the same time.

I worked with a neurologist (he also had a specialty in psychiatry) that was fighting the establishment over adhd and add. It is one of the biggest frauds foisted on the American public in these last few years. I am glad you saw through it before it was to late to recover from the harm that was surely headed in your direction.

I also have 5 friends caught up in the medical addiction system ... all started with minor depression and all are now full blown addicts of pretty heavy duty prescription drugs ... the worst being oxycontin. All 5 of those friends progressed from minor depression to bi-polar, arthritis, fibromyalgia just to name a few ailments. 3 are now totally disabled and one diagnosed last week with terminal cancer.

So count your self lucky for having the good sense to escape the system that promotes and keeps us sick. You are to be commended for your courage and fortitude. ;)

Keep in mind ill-health is a multi-billion dollar business ... we all best consider who is making what over keeping us that way before we consider their advise on how to get/stay well.

"The world is what you perceive it to be so why not let it be light: ... Linda P

[Martin_J]

Hi Stacy, and welcome to hps.

Great observations in your intro and I am happy for you that you found this community. It is funny how you had a "diagnosis" with one of those all too familiar acronyms. No need to worry about just another impulse buy. The great thing here is that it is about real people and real results. Jos-hua is pretty confident of that and he takes your cleansing seriously, as will all of the support group. Best wishes as you make your preparations.

Marty

[Adrian_S]

Hi Stacy,

I think you came to the right place. I've just joined myself and I'm looking forward to what will happen next...

[Colin_C]

Hi Stacey and welcome to the communtiy. I think you are going to benefit immensly from this program as you are starting from a pretty clean slate - physically - to begin with. Also, I think that the this cleansing brings about just as much, if not more of a change mentally and emotionally as it does physically... so I think your struggles with depression are soon on there way out. As far as the estabolished medical community goes... its quite a racket indeed... just be thankful you know better.

peace,
Colin

[Belinda_G]

HI Stacey,

Congratulations and welcome - this community will always be here for you as you journey on this wonderful path.

Yes I jumped in a year ago after stumbling across this site without even looking...had a read for a couple of hours, recognised what was going on here and jumped in....and never had second thoughts.

I wasn't looking for a change in my anxiety levels but that has certainly occurred, amongst the myriad of other wonderful things. This is a total experience of support and following the program will allow you to cleanse physically plus along the way, mind and spirit.

best wishes and love
Belinda

[Stacy_M]

My gosh, what a wonderful welcome. I want to say thanks to everyone who has replied! It just reinforces my feeling that this was a good decision. I am so glad to be here.

[Joseph R]

Greetings Stacy,

I can relate to your intro so much. I have also struggled with depression, tried the medication route and was left almost worse off. I was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder at one point. When I read this it really hit home. I agree with your ideas about the medical industry and believe that no one can ever classify you or your unique life experience.

I am glad to join you down this road to finding real health.

All the best,

Joseph R

[Richard_D]

Hi Stacy,

You've already learned a lot more about how the medical industry operates than most people ever figure out, even as they sicken and die on the drug and surgery path. Congratulations for recognizing what those medications were doing to you. However, as you can see with the return of your symptoms, the underlying causes for your discomforts still need to be addressed.

This is definitely the place to address the causes of disease. Like Stephen said, don't lose too much time getting started, because the sooner you begin, the sooner you'll experience relief.

Rick

[Dawn_S]

Hi, Stacy. Thank you for sharing your life experience and powerful insights on the forum.

You gave me a lot to think about especially concerning the financial set up of the medical and pharmaceutical industries -- how health is really not in the corporations' financial best interests. Creepy.

It's unfortunate because I know so many great people who are medical professionals, and I don't perceive them as evil or money-grubbing. They are positive, caring folks who genuinely seem to want to empower their patients to take charge of their health and live healthfully. Maybe they don't have all the information necessary, but I see the desire in them.

The situation really seems to be coming down to personal responsibility -- where each of us listens to our bodies and inner voice first, so we can put our time, energy, and resources into systems that truly nuture and sustain us.

It seems like a process of mass consciousness waking itself up. Maybe the corresponding breakdown (e.g., change, release) in so many individual's health and the planetary/environmental health is just part of that "waking up" process?

[Stacy_M]

Hey
Well, it’s been 3 months since I signed up with HPS, and I finally activated NetWonder today. I plan to take the week after Thanksgiving off from work. I am so excited!

The delay in the launch of my cleanse has been caused mainly by financial restrictions, but it has also in no small part been an effect of a move I decided to make in mid-September. Besides that the move (deciding whether or not to take the place, and then doing the move itself) totally consumed me over a period of many weeks, it also triggered a massive depressive episode, from which I have not fully recovered. To my great chagrin, I have given in to antidepressants, just to make myself able to function at work. I am taking a very minimal amount so that I can stop easily at the beginning of the cleanse, and I truly hope that I will never, ever again need to consider going back on. I realized, after having made the decision to move, that getting to the cleanse (financially and otherwise) should absolutely have been my first priority, before making any sort of major change.. but oh well, what’s done is done.

One of the symptoms which manifests when I am depressed is an almost universal feeling of overwhelm. For example, I have to this day been unable to face the prospect of unpacking my boxes, and for the most part they remain stacked as if in storage. It’s a conditioned response, I know, but I become overwhelmed by incredibly trivial things, and go into a state of avoidance. That is the reason that I have been avoiding the forum for all this time – it is overwhelming to me. I have been putting off thinking about the cleanse itself because I knew I wouldn’t be able to handle the whole process. But I finally got back on the forum the other day and started randomly reading about different experiences, and once again, I got into “yes” mode –“yes, this is what I want for myself, and sooner than later.” I got on the phone and ordered the herbals, the only thing I still need to get this thing going.

I think this forum is awesome, and the people here are just wonderful. I confess that I am still overwhelmed by it. I hope that my initial “shyness” can be forgiven; as I spend more time here, I feel confident that I will get more used to it, as I really do want to be a part of it. I see that I could put off the cleanse forever just because forum participation overwhelms me, but I've decided not to. It’s time to go ahead and move on this thing. I want to thank all of you for being so inspiring. :cool:
Love Stacy

[Robin_M]

Hey Stacy,

Welcome aboard, no pun intended but you will come to really know the board!!

This program is life changing so consider yourself lucky yo have found yourself here. We all have our own process of doing and getting here. The structure of the program is such a wonderful part of being here. Jos-hua has laid the whole program out for us we just need to deal with the resistance and trust in those who have travelled ahead and with us . Work with it but try to keep moving forward with the minimal amount of self judgement , of course we all want to erradiacte it but we are human. Works in process.

So enjoy it.

Love and light,

Robin

[Sharley_S]

Hi Stacy,

First I wanted to thank you for your comment on my pre-cleanse thread, about how you share my #4 bad habit, the phone thing. I commented on it in my thread, and it might be worth checking out because Linda P. said something relevent about that that got me thinking and maybe you should think about it too. But for now, I just wanted to say that I was shocked and relieved that I was not the only person on the planet who did this, honestly, I thought I was the only one. Just knowing that I'm not helped so much.

As I read your post, I realize that we have a lot in common. Not just the phone thing. I too was diagnosed with depression and bi-polar disorder, more than once and by more than one Dr. But I was never impressed with how they came to these conclusions and so much seemed left out of the equation entirely with the very narrow field of questions they ask before coming up with these labels.

If I may (as a beginner myself) suggest that you start reading Dan's book right away. Many of those practices can become a practice for you before you start your formal, and many of those practices will deliver in themselves enough benefit for you to feel really empowered to go the whole nine yards. Might I also suggest you experiment with eliminating wheat and dairy from your diet. (This will be talked about in Dan's book as well) but I just wanted to share with you from my own personal experience that for me, this was SIGNIFICANT in reducing my mood swings, depression and anxiety. I actually discovered this on my own a while back but I had read Dan's book and other's like it many years before that. Without the mode of thinking that was prevalent in these books, I would never have made the discovery. Wheat was the biggest offender where my moods were concerned but Dairy contributed in that it caused a lot of bloating and constipation (and well, nobody's in a good mood when they are bloated or constipated).

I hope you never regret having started this. I don't think you will. I read Dan's book 13 years ago, believed every word of it but only put very little in practice and in bits and pieces because it was a)overwhelming (I never even considered doing a colonic on my own but now I have ordered a board and can't wait for it to arrive) and b) there's not a lot of people out there doing stuff like this and its too easy to get swept up in 'normal' and let your health and sanity get lost in the process. Bottom line is, every time I have found myself in a health crisis, and frustrated with mainstream Dr.s , I have turned to Dan's book and other's like it as they are the only places where I have fealt even a glimmer of health and empowerment become mine as a result.

When I signed up, I feared too that I may have made another "impulse buy" known for this in fact. But I knew that these people were talking about the only thing that has ever made sense to me in theory and in practice. But I also realized that for all that I "knew" I hadn't even come close to becoming a real "practioner". For years I have struggled with making the connection between what I know and what I do. When I finally came upon this site (because I had recently been through another round of bad pharmecuetical experiences) I had almost lost all hope that I would never change. Maybe I'm just one of those people who never gets anywhere and people will continue to say, its such a shame, she had so much potential. People fall down the drain every day, maybe its just my lot in life. I was seriously contemplating this type of thinking as the only way to find 'sanity' --just accept it and embrace it, I was starting to think. But I knew that this was not really the way, its like taking a philosophical truth and violently distorting it to justify an untimely and unnatural death.

Since I signed up, I have still had moments of beating myself up for not being where I should be on this thing. But then every time I come back to the forums (which by the way, I probably wouldn't have done as frequently if it were not for Jos-hua's urging us to do so, and because I paid a pretty penny for it, I felt obliged to follow his instructions--if for no other reason than to save face with my husband who was a little skeptical at first because of the cost) I begin to feel empowered again, and that whatever I did or didn't do isn't a deal breaker... we just keep going. This already is a sign of personal growth for me. That I keep coming back to face the day even if it is in cyber space. For the first time, I think I'm really gonna be able to do this thing (if only my darn board would get here) from begining to end because there is no end, just a whole bunch of beginnings.

I wish you all the best. And if you have one of those can't get out of bed days, don't sweat it. I think its so 'normal' to feel that way if we are doing what is 'normal' in our culture... eat everything in sight, indiscriminately and on the run. Go Go Go, Do Do Do, no time to stop and ask questions like "why". I think we get very out of touch with our 'soul' when we live that way and actually sickness and anxiety and depression is our 'soul's' way of trying to save us from the attraction of "have, get, consume". Not sure if that makes any sense.

Anyway, Wishing all the best for you in the days to come. Take your time and if you feel over whelmed at first you won't be the first one. Thank goodness Jos-hua gives us the info. in doses, it would be so much harder if we didn't have the step by step guidance he provides, but just so you know it can still feel like an awful lot depending on where your at at any given moment... so don't feel bad.

Peace and Love to You
Sharley

[Jeremi_S]

Hello Stacy,

Yes you have found something great ;) and you will benefit from it. I believe you are embarking on a whole new journey in life, one of fredom and choice. I love the fact that you stopped taking all the drugs they (the doctors:mad: ) prescibed for you. I have a saying about drugs, they are passifiers and only surpress the problem and in the time they surpress them they cause other ones this is not healing and I love that you have seen this and decided to do something about it.

Peace and Joy
Jeremi