Software programmer, Adrian_S, age 30, HPS ADVANCED CLEANSING, 7DW Master Faster #5, Testimonial - The support from people makes the difference

[Adrian_S]

If there is one bad thing about cleansing too often, is that I write testimonials often, which is not by best skill, but I guess it's a very good deal whatsoever. I should have written this earlier, but now is also a good time.

This round I went back to doing water fasts. It was my 9th cleanse, and - much to my surprise - I eliminated a lot of mucoid plaque. In fact, I started to eliminate it as soon as I started and this continued for few days, after which is slowed down. It was as if my body was saying me "hey, I had this ready to eliminate, I have been waiting for months for you to cleanse".

I lost some weight, but I put most of it back, which was expected, since I didn't have much to lose in the first place.
I need less sleep (7 hours), and lately I stayed very late a few nights, with minimal impact. The body does respond very well, like it did years ago, but this being said, I do want to sleep my nights, thank you.
I enjoy food better, and this (food) is something where I could
I get tired harder, and have more energy. I am sure that I could do much much better, but the trend is solid - ever since I joined HPS I am feeling better. If I had followed more of Jos-hua's recommendations, I am sure I would have felt even better.
I am more calm and peaceful since I finished cleansing, but I know this goes away slowly unless I set a daily moment of silent relaxation.

Had I written this earlier, I might have remembered more, but for now I think I will stop here.

Oh yes: for whoever reads this and is unsure about cleansing, please consider this: Jos-hua is not doing this for money - had he lived in the first world countries, he couldn't afford to sustain with what he gets, because he accepts only a limited number of people, and it never fills up. If you think about the staggering cost of health care and health insurance, this program is not that expensive.
On the other hand, please consider that a cured patient is a lost customer. As simple as that. It is unfortunate, but health care has become a business which would do almost anything to keep people under their control and continue paying, and the only way to have control is to make people come back, that is not curing them, but "treating" them. Drugs have side effects. Then you get a second drug to "treat" (again, treat not cure) the effects of the first drug. Then, you might get a new drug to "treat" the effects of the second drug. HELLO? I thought you went there to get cured, not to remain a buyer of pharma products for years, maybe for a lifetime. It is clear that the medical system is not geared to curing, but to make money.
Let's look at the statistics of US health care system just a few years ago - from an article (http://www.mercola.com/2000/jul/30/doctors_death.htm) published in JAMA (Journal of American Medical Association):
* 12,000 -- unnecessary surgery
* 7,000 -- medication errors in hospitals
* 20,000 -- other errors in hospitals
* 80,000 -- infections in hospitals
* 106,000 -- non-error, negative effects of drugs
Adding these, you get to 225,000 deaths per year because of the medical system ("iatrogenic causes"). This is the third leading cause of death, only heart disease and cancer score higher.
So... it only makes sense that one has to look for solutions elsewhere. The only difference between people who put their diseases behind forever and the vast majority who doesn't is that the former people started to look elsewhere. It's just as simple. Sure, you might not get it right the first time, but by continuing to try something that actually works, you are almost guaranteed to eventually find something appropriate.
Many have found to date that the combination of (juice) fasting and colon cleansing - as in this HPS program - worked great for their health problems. BTW, please note that until 1930s there were medical doctors that were trained in chemical and drugs "treatment" methods, but still preferred the fasting and cleansing, because it worked. After that, pharma companies used the "stick and carrot" strategy and the rest is history... or, rather, a statistic, that I just shared (see above).
Lastly, finding something that works is just a part of it. A very important part is to stick to it. I think basically everyone agrees that they should cut on coffee and sugar or give up smoking, but how many are actually able to DO it? Same with health - you get away from conventional medicine, eventually find something that works, and then slowly give that up and health erodes again. We are all people and sometimes make stupid choices. Here is where HPS shines - by staying in touch with like-minded people makes it much easier to stick to some things that actually work, to do them long enough so that they become a second nature.

In the beginning of this I said that I writing is not my best skill. I should probably consider taking that back :).

Peace,

[Adrian_S]

I thought this is a good place to put an amazing documentary (http://www.welltv.com/) I found recently - We become silent by Kevin P. Miller. I believe it adds to what I had just posted before:
Part 1 on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOOMwOyBSCU) or here: NOOMwOyBSCU
Part 2 on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B7t0BkV1xM) or here: 6B7t0BkV1xM
Part 3 on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOixx24MqZQ) or here: eOixx24MqZQ


The movie I mentioned is a talk by Dr. Rima Laibow that is behind the campaign of awareness of Codex. It is the same person interviewed in the article Alan linked.
http://spiritofmaat.com/sep07/codex_alimentarius.html

The talk/movie is available on YouTube (in chunks of 8 minutes):

Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmrF9KjlGsc). Or embedded here: VmrF9KjlGsc
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEqB41Ow0vU). Or embedded here: uEqB41Ow0vU
Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkAvFhTjU-M). Or embedded here: fkAvFhTjU-M
Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJgHXHCNPvI). Or embedded here: LJgHXHCNPvI
Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKLDRf1XdgA). Or embedded here: GKLDRf1XdgA

[Stephen_C]

Hi Adrian,

Wow! Nine (9) cleanses to date. It's great to see how far you have come since the beginning of your HPS journey. You have benefited enormously and have contributed to all of us here even more so. Even though we haven't had a chance to get together lately it's nice to know that there is a fellow Master Faster in the region and close by too. Spring is coming.......

PEACE

Stephen_C

[Christopher_S]

Hi Adrian,
Congratulations on your recent cleansing results. Sounds like you've come a long way. I hope to one day have so many cleanses under my belt. It is great to have some advanced cleansers in the house to lead the way.:)

Also thanks for posting the videos. Very informative. It seems the more you look for the corruption the more you find it. Hopefully if enough people are aware of this they will fail. More people are waking up everyday.

Anyways, thanks for the great post!

Chris

[Alan_A]

So... it only makes sense that one has to look for solutions elsewhere. The only difference between people who put their diseases behind forever and the vast majority who doesn't is that the former people started to look elsewhere. It's just as simple. Sure, you might not get it right the first time, but by continuing to try something that actually works, you are almost guaranteed to eventually find something appropriate.


Lastly, finding something that works is just a part of it. A very important part is to stick to it. I think basically everyone agrees that they should cut on coffee and sugar or give up smoking, but how many are actually able to DO it? Same with health - you get away from conventional medicine, eventually find something that works, and then slowly give that up and health erodes again. We are all people and sometimes make stupid choices. Here is where HPS shines - by staying in touch with like-minded people makes it much easier to stick to some things that actually work, to do them long enough so that they become a second nature.

Peace,

hey Adrian, congrats on finishing another cleanse being cleaned out to start again a fresh round of sound rejuvenation.

that's so right, "how many people are actually able to DO it?" and what we can add to the "do" is the "sustain". how many people are actually able to make a great change in their health AND and sustain it.

it is a much much higher percentage of people who need one on one care and support of others than those who can go it alone and make the necessary breakthroughs and continue everyday.

lately i have been taking part in discussions on an irritable bowel syndrome forum on the internet. the amount of advice and methods for suffers of this dis-ease is immense. but which advice and which method is going to do the long-term good?

and that's what people endevour to find out through trial and error.

we can only hope here that more people can see that here at HPS there is something different, full of care, love, sincerity and truth, that is REALLY working toward true health and REALLY helping others.

the formula for great health is not that complex, in fact once you begin to learn about it and apply it you see that is very simple and logical, like "oh, i should have known that!"

for all visitors here to our forums, please, take out all the guess work and all the trial and error, come join a place of support, love, and care from others with methods that work.

and take a look at the videos (http://hpscleansing.com/group/showthread.php?t=3790) too,

with gratitude, peace,
your friend, alan

[Jos-hua Medicine man]

...lately i have been taking part in discussions on an irritable bowel syndrome forum on the internet. the amount of advice and methods for suffers of this dis-ease is immense. but which advice and which method is going to do the long-term good?

and that's what people endevour to find out through trial and error.

we can only hope here that more people can see that here at HPS there is something different, full of care, love, sincerity and truth, that is REALLY working toward true health and REALLY helping others.

the formula for great health is not that complex, in fact once you begin to learn about it and apply it you see that is very simple and logical, like "oh, i should have known that!"

for all visitors here to our forums, please, take out all the guess work and all the trial and error, come join a place of support, love, and care from others with methods that work.

and take a look at the videos (http://hpscleansing.com/group/showthread.php?t=3790) too,

with gratitude, peace,
your friend, alan


Greetings friends,

Yep, one thing is pretty obvious... both you guys - Adrian and Alan - both of you have really benefited from HPS 7DW cleansing... for if you didn't, weren't, you'd have been gone long ago.

Adrian has over a 1,000 posts here at our forums.
Alan has over 1,400 posts here at our forums.

And the beauty of it all is that these aren't just posts related to cleansing, healing and rejuvenation, but posts related to hands on experiences. You guys rock.

And one thing is for sure, IBS, Irritable Bowel Syndrome you will never ever have!

I'm glad you guys have / are benefiting, and like you I wish more other cool people would start here with HPS their journey of cleansing, healing and rejuvenation... everything is interconnected.... and that's why whatever we are talking about and doing at HPS, you can bet the bank that in some form or manner, it is rubbing off on other areas of our lives, not just in health care, but also in mental, emotional and spiritual care.

Unfortunately, in this space age we live in, people don't want journey's but rather quick fixes.

Beam me up Scottie :rolleyes:

Peace,

[Jos-hua Medicine man]

...Lastly, finding something that works is just a part of it. A very important part is to stick to it. I think basically everyone agrees that they should cut on coffee and sugar or give up smoking, but how many are actually able to DO it? Same with health - you get away from conventional medicine, eventually find something that works, and then slowly give that up and health erodes again. We are all people and sometimes make stupid choices.

Here is where HPS shines - by staying in touch with like-minded people makes it much easier to stick to some things that actually work, to do them long enough so that they become a second nature.

In the beginning of this I said that I writing is not my best skill. I should probably consider taking that back :).

Peace,


Seems to me that your writing skills are just fine Adrian. :) ;) :D

Thanks for being here, thanks for trusting me, thanks for being a big part of HPS, Helping People Survive.

As we all know, it is a cooperative effort.

[Deborah_S]

It was my 9th cleanse, -
In the beginning of this I said that writing is not my best skill. I should probably consider taking that back :)

Adrian, I read your posts I learned alot. I can see how folks cleanse year after year. I didn't see it before - Or maybe I didn't see me doing it before. But ....


And your writing skills are "great" - Certainly helps me. Thanks.

[Richard_D]

Hey Adrian, I've been trying to think of something thoughtful and meaningful to contribute to the discussion here, but since nothing seems forthcoming anytime soon, let me just add my congrats to you here on the record with the others. 9 cleanses in what, 3 years maybe, if even that long? I don't know what the HPS record for such things is, but you have to be on the short list. Of course, it wouldn't mean nearly so much were it not for your real dedication to your postcleansing and practices throughout. Hats off to you!

Rick

[Adrian_S]

Thank you Stephen, Christopher, Alan, Jos-hua, Deborah and Rick.

The truth is when I started writing the testimonial I thought I will write about myself. Generally, I don't like to talk too much about myself, however, I'm a very good listener... or use to be. As such, I wasn't sure if I'll write something to come up as interesting. And then, I thought, why don't I write about something that matters? Becoming more interested about what I was writing - even passionate - I ended up posting a lot :).

The reason I am with HPS is that, well, it benefits me. It's as simple as that.
I want to say that it is possible to do well without HPS, however, that requires a tremendous amount of energy and will AND time, dedicating to learn how the body really works, trying several practices and observing how they work together. If Jos-hua did it, everyone could do it. BUT, "could do" is not the same as "would do" or "will do". Very few people will quit their job and dedicate a decade of their life to putting things together.

I believe that for myself it might have been possible to learn many of these things alone like Jos-hua did, because of my innate desire to look for the roots, for the cause of many things. Gosh, many times I feel like I want to know too much, when in fact life is so simple. It is also likely I might have learned things and never apply them, never learn how they work together, and likely drop before getting results, remaining with just an intellectual knowledge. Knowledge only helps if you put it into practice.

However, HPS is like a shortcut. It has a program that works, it was tried by many others before with generally good results. It has a bunch of people to cheer you along. For vast majority of people joining HPS is the difference between getting results and not getting results. I don't know how to state this more clear.

I'm not sure who mentioned about three years. Well, that would be in August, and my that time I want to do two more cleanse.

Peace,

[Dorothea_L]

... Generally, I don't like to talk too much about myself, however, I'm a very good listener...


Hi Adrian,

Yes, you are a good listener - and thanks for visiting me and listening to me - I'm very appreciative! Everyone appreciates a listener and your skills are truly needed here.

But I really like it when you DO talk about yourself, because then I can get to know you better. I should visit your earlier threads - they may reveal more about who you are.

I've got two guys at home who don't like to talk much - they really need prodding and lots of encouragement before I ever get them to talk - and then talking about themselves - that's even more rare. I've learned how to ask good questions.

Thanks again for all the great eye opening subjects/links you've posted!

love,
Dorothea

[Jos-hua Medicine man]

...The reason I am with HPS is that, well, it benefits me. It's as simple as that.
I want to say that it is possible to do well without HPS, however, that requires a tremendous amount of energy and will AND time, dedicating to learn how the body really works, trying several practices and observing how they work together. If Jos-hua did it, everyone could do it. BUT, "could do" is not the same as "would do" or "will do". Very few people will quit their job and dedicate a decade of their life to putting things together.

I believe that for myself it might have been possible to learn many of these things alone like Jos-hua did, because of my innate desire to look for the roots, for the cause of many things. Gosh, many times I feel like I want to know too much, when in fact life is so simple. It is also likely I might have learned things and never apply them, never learn how they work together, and likely drop before getting results, remaining with just an intellectual knowledge. Knowledge only helps if you put it into practice.

However, HPS is like a shortcut. It has a program that works, it was tried by many others before with generally good results. It has a bunch of people to cheer you along. For vast majority of people joining HPS is the difference between getting results and not getting results. I don't know how to state this more clear.

Peace,


i'm sure you could sort it all out alone, everyone can... it just takes years and years and many mistakes and pitfalls, and one needs to pick up and be around others, because bottom line is, there will be no transformational change if others are not intervening... if others are not around us practicing the same things...

like minded people on the same path, in the buddhist tradition it is call a sangha, in the hindu and indian tradtion there are ashrams, in the west i think they call them centers...

its all the same, like minded people practicing.

HPS makes it easy i think... seems you feel the same way. :p

peace,

[Perry_K]

Hey Adrian,

Been meaning to visit a few of your threads since you posted on my intro…finally getting a moment to do so…

Looking over one of your posts dated a week ago concerning the more than reasonable price of the HPS program and the stats on the medical industries performance…

About a year or so ago I broke my ankle jumping backward off a desk (caught it on the edge of an elevated pedestal).

Reluctantly I go to the hospital cause the thing is pretty swollen and… 4+ hours later (3+ of those hours were waiting to be seen) they tell me I’ve got a broke ankle, wrap it in an ace bandage & ½ -brace, give me a pair of crutches & some pain drugs (which I didn’t ask for, need or take), and tell me to stay off of it and contact an orthopedic doctor, then send me on my way…. Got a bill from the hospital for over $2000….$1000 of that was for just walking into the emergency room.

Now I’m sure if you break something you’re probably going to want to go to the hospital…the point I make is that just for walking in there, for any reason, it’s going to cost you a grand or more, and general advice is all you’re going to get…. For more specific advice you’ll have to follow up with another doctor (more $) and very likely several more visits after that…(even more $).

Watched the first & second part of the You Tube interviews also (…I’ve read of these issues and this is information all should be concerned about….

Good posts.

Perry

[Dorothea_L]

Yea, Perry, Adrian sure has a load full of thought provoking links... keeping us on our conscientious toes.

Sad medical story Perry, and they didn't tell you anything you couldn't have told yourself... - did you at least get to keep the braces?

That's the only area where the Canadian medical system is perhaps helpful... your experience would not have cost us anything. (But we sure pay through the nose for it in taxes!)


About a year or so ago I broke my ankle jumping backward off a desk (caught it on the edge of an elevated pedestal).


And now my curiosity is sparked, "What in the world were you doing jumping backwards off of a desk!?!"

love,
Dorothea

[Perry_K]

And now my curiosity is sparked, "What in the world were you doing jumping backwards off of a desk!?!"

Hey Dorothea,

…I was doing a security installation running wire through a drop ceiling to a button in an office which enabled them to open a magnetic lock on an outside door…. The desk was on an elevated pedestal.

Yes, I got to keep the ½ brace & crutches but used neither. The ½ brace was made of plaster like a cast which simply went around the bottom of my heel and partially up the back of my clave affixed to my leg via an ace bandage; and it would not fit into my shoe (and it was winter out). The crutches were so difficult to use I think I would have broken something else if I used them.

I ended up buying a brace, was walking on it, carefully, in a couple days and the whole thing healed in 4-5 weeks…at least to where I was walking normally again with virtually no pain… It’s funny but I truly don’t remember now if it was the right or left ankle.

Oh, and I never did go to an orthopedic doctor...whereas before I left the hospital I had them show me the x-ray and seeing it was a clean break, sitting perfectly in the place where it should be – I could see no purpose is wasting more time & money on another doctor.

Truth is the x-ray was all I really needed to see to determine if self care was appropriate.

There is one more twist to this story…after waiting around 3 hours I told my wife I’d had it, and was walking out of the hospital to go home when a nurse came up to me and asked if I needed some help! When I told her that I’d waited as long as I was going to and that I was leaving she got me a doctor/intern in a few minutes.

So, they do forget about you too....

The moral of the story…compared to the price, service, personal care and advice of the average mainstream medical establishment – HPS is quite a bargain….

Perry

[Dorothea_L]

Thanks for filling me in on the details Perry... so you weren't dancing on top of the office desk, you were actually doing some serious work.

The moral of the story…compared to the price, service, personal care and advice of the average mainstream medical establishment – HPS is quite a bargain….
Perry

Absolutely true, even if it were twice as expensive it would still be true. People just have to realize that they spend their money (and borrow money) foolishly on things that are not as important as their health. Oh well, some people will make the right choices ... we did...

love,
Dorothea

[Dorothea_L]

Hey Adrian: I finally listened through the Dr. Rima's talk - WOW - she's quite a lady and doing a very great thing... do you think Canadians can sign that petition? I have some email addresses of a couple of American's that I can send these links to...

Thanks so much for presenting this here - extremely valuable information!

love,
Dorothea